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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun - 05:05 (2012)    Post subject: Voilà le meilleur article que je connaisse pour la pêche à la traine des poissons à rostre Reply with quote

Marlin to the masses – a guide to catching billfish
Posted: 23/6/2009 -
by David Green

Just the mention of black marlin conjures up mental images of big, expensive boats, heavy tackle and long hours spent plying the bluest of currents. However, the facts are more to the contrary; black marlin are actually very accessible to the masses of small trailer boats in coastal ports.

The key to billfish activity is the schools of pilchards and slimy mackerel that these fish feed on extensively. If a port holds plenty of bait, the billfish hang around. If there is no bait the fish will keep swimming until they find the food. This can explain why some seasons have great fishing in one port and almost no fish in another nearby spot.



Catching a black marlin from a trailer boat is one of the most absorbing challenges of this sport. They aren’t an easy fish to catch. They are sometimes hard to find, often hard to hook (especially on lures) and fight like no other fish. They also have weaponry on the front end unlike most ‘normal’ shaped fish you are probably familiar with. This makes releasing them boat side potentially dangerous. They are also a very addictive type of fish; you won’t stop at one!

Bait or lure?
Most marlin are caught by trolling. Whether using baits, lures or switch baiting the principle is the same. The fish is attracted to the commotion in the surface layers created by the boat and tempted to eat something dragged behind it. Lets get back to first principles. A lot of anglers use fancy teasers to ‘raise’ a fish. That is complete rubbish in my opinion. The object that raises the fish is the boat. The teaser is a secondary attraction. Marlin are small-brained super aggressive predators. They have few enemies, so they don’t have to spend time hiding to avoid getting eaten. For this reason they are almost fearless and always curious. Boats attract marlin because they are noisy, create lots of splash and make waves. Marlin like boats. They also like some boats a lot better than other boats. A lot of experienced skippers comment that a particular boat will raise more fish than another one, and there is a lot of truth in that.



Once the boat has attracted the marlin, the fish is looking for food associated with all the commotion. This is when the fish looks at the teasers, lures and baits. Underwater video footage often shows that a billfish has been hanging under the boat or around it for several minutes before it appears on the lures or teasers. If you want to catch that fish, you have to turn passive interest into predation. By far the best way to do that is to give the fish the exact food it wants, a live fish. Slimy mackerel, bonito, small striped tuna or live frigates are impossible for marlin to resist. I don’t think I’ve ever had a refusal of a well-presented live bait to a feeding marlin.

The next option is dead bait. Marlin eat dead baits rigged and trolled so they wiggle and look alive, but this method has some limitations and gets less bites than livies. The third option is feeding the fish a plastic imitation; lure fishing. Now marlin love well presented lures, but in the reality stakes even a dim witted billfish sometimes recognises that the fancy lure is not to its taste and rejects it. They spit rather than swallow. So, on first principles, each of the above methods has limitations and modifications required so you can hook the billfish that was initially attracted to the wash and wake of your boat.



Please tease me
How many teasers do you need? If you work on the idea that the boat is the main teaser, then two secondary teasers out the back is plenty. I find a good teaser needs a bit of taste and smell, and a fish such as a mullet, tuna or large garfish rigged under a big skirted lure gives surface action and chewy taste when a billfish grabs it. Limiting your boat to two teasers gives you plenty of space to present a bait, lure or fly to the fish that has been turned ravenous by its repeated attempts to eat the bait and lure combination that has been pulled out of its mouth. Drop back a live bait and it will get a certain bite!

When lure trolling a mirrored deep teaser like the Pakula Witchdoctor is extremely useful as it generates a lot of flash that travels a long way under water. Any flash will interest a curious marlin and in conjunction with the wash of the boat it definitely adds to the attraction. A light show adds to the attraction.

It is important to remember that the boat attracts these fish, and for this reason it is important to have your baits and lures relatively close to the hull. A ‘fishy’ hull gets lots of bites on the short flat lines. I noticed on my 6 metres tinny that changing from a noisy high pitched 2 stroke to a quiet 4 stroke saw a change in the bite pattern. A lot more fish climbed all over the close in lures with the 4 stroke.

Go fast – go slow
To find a marlin, it is important to also let the marlin find you. Obviously, a big bait school will hold marlin in a small area, and on the wide blue ocean fish will be scattered over a much larger area. The ‘go fast’ methods cover more water on the wide blue ocean, increasing the chances of finding a marlin (and a marlin finding you.) The ‘go slow’ methods let anglers use effective slow troll methods when the fish are congregated in a small area, such as around a bait school. This keeps the bait in the strike zone for longer.



So in order to prepare for billfish, you need a combination of ‘go fast’ and ‘go slow’ rigs. This may seem an oversimplification, but you’ll catch a lot more billfish if you change methods according to the situation you find yourself in. ‘Go fast’ means, in most boats, dragging plastic lures around at a speed from 6 to 9 knots. In general a lure spread consists of at least four lures. For small black marlin lures are generally between 12 and 25cm in length and represent bait such as slimies, garfish or small tuna. This is a searching method. Its advantages are that it covers a lot of water. The downside is that lures are the least effective method by which to hook a marlin as the fish spit the lures out and have to be hooked very quickly once they bite. This means most lure hooked billfish are pinned in the mouth, which has a lower release mortality than a gut hooked fish.

Spread ‘em
Lures for billfish consist of a trolling head with skirts attached. Some cost ten bucks, others are over a hundred. Marlin can’t read price tags or brand names. A good lure runs with a bit of kick or wiggle and intermittently breaks the surface, leaving a bubble trail behind it. Good brands include Pakula, Meridian, Black Bart and Fish Eagle. Every port has its own popular brands, and word of mouth is the best advice as to lure selection. Rigging the lures, drag settings and leaders are a full article alone. The aim of this article is to illustrate how the fish will find your bait or lure in the first place, which leads me on to the design of a ‘lure spread’.



A ‘spread’ of lures describes how the lures are placed at different distances and widths from the boat. The most important part is making sure a fish that has been attracted to the boat wash and noise can see the lure so it can eat it. In a lure spread the individual lures are staggered in such a way that when a fish sees one lure, it will also be in sight of another. Fussy fish will pick their way through a lure spread until they find something to their taste.

There are a number of ways to make a lure more visible. Try to run the lure in clear water out of the wash zone. Outriggers let you spread the lures so they can run wide of the prop wash in clean water unaffected by motor turbulence. This clear window of water makes the lure stand out to the fish. Bright or lumo lures are also easy for a fish to see, and the bubble trail and action of the lure leave a trail in the water that the fish can track to its source. If you look at some underwater footage of marlin in a lure spread (eg the blue marlin in Ghana video) you will quickly get the idea.



Lures are also set on waves in the wake. To get the best visibility and lure action it helps to run the lure on the front of a wave. A fish coming in on a well-positioned lure from behind has plenty of opportunity to accurately hit a lure on the front of a wave. There are many different types of lure spread, but in general a standard spread of 5 lures works for most. This consists of 2 close in lures on the 2nd to 4th wave trolled directly off the rod tips that run just behind the teasers (flat lines), two lures run off the outriggers on the 5th to 7th wave (without outriggers you can run them from well positioned rod holders behind the flat lines) and a ‘shotgun’, which is generally a slightly smaller lure run well back behind the riggers and the prop wash. The ‘shotgun’ is generally run straight down the middle between the rigger lines. The teasers are close to the boat on the first or second waves. This pattern attracts fish from the boat to the teasers to the lures where the hooks are. It’s a great ‘go fast’ searching method.



When you find a big school of bait the best method of getting a bite is often to pull in the plastic, drop a bait jig and catch livies, which can be then slowly trolled, where the predators are feeding. Trolling two livies at a time is plenty. If you are going one to two knots, leave the teasers out. Any marlin in the area will soon find you.

In simple terms the above is a guide to billfish trolling. Remember the boat is what attracts the fish. The hooking, rigging and catching are what happens after your boat has brought a curious fish in for a look. Catching a marlin is a simple as dragging some real or imitation marlin food behind your vessel.



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PostPosted: Wed 27 Jun - 12:12 (2012)    Post subject: traine Reply with quote

salut yves


connais tu les leurres seven strand , si oui qu'en penses ru ?
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Jun - 16:37 (2012)    Post subject: Voilà le meilleur article que je connaisse pour la pêche à la traine des poissons à rostre Reply with quote

Non, Daniel. De toute ma vie je n'ai péché qu'avec des Murray Brothers, qui n'existent plus.
Mais j'ai ma collection personnelle. Je vais mettre des photos de mes MB, vous serez bluffés .
La qualité de ces derniers venait de ses jupes exceptionnelles ( ce n'était pas uniquement un tube découpé dans la longueur, mais des filaments plastiques de 1 à 1,5 mm, moulés semble-t-il, et granuleux au contact: du très grand art !) , ainsi que des têtes légèrement bombées et plutôt plus courtes que ce qu'on trouve actuellement sur le marché.
Dès que j'en vois passer sur ebay, j'achète, mais hélas ils sont devenus très rares.
Ici au Panama je vais tester avec Juju des Pakula et des Black Bart. Ce sont des leurres très gros.

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PostPosted: Wed 27 Jun - 17:02 (2012)    Post subject: Voilà le meilleur article que je connaisse pour la pêche à la traine des poissons à rostre Reply with quote

oui les black bart ont super bonne réputation , un peu chers mais apparemment très bons
montre les photos des mb c'est toujours enrichissant d'apprendre quelque chose !!!
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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jun - 16:07 (2012)    Post subject: Voilà le meilleur article que je connaisse pour la pêche à la traine des poissons à rostre Reply with quote

Jupe normale comme on trouve maintenant sur tous les leurres: de la merde bon marché...



et jupes de Murray Brothers... Rien à voir, y compris dans le coût de fabrication...
Il faut noter que le mix des couleurs ne se fait pas dans le plastique lui même, comme pour les jupes actuelles, mais par le mélange au montage du leurre de parties de jupes unies.
Du grand, très grand art !



PS: quiconque trouve des jupes comme celles là est prié de me le faire savoir

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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jun - 17:46 (2012)    Post subject: Voilà le meilleur article que je connaisse pour la pêche à la traine des poissons à rostre Reply with quote

si on ne sait pas de quoi il s'agit , on dirait des bonbons de boulangerie pour les gosses
bon si j'en trouve je te fais signe !!!
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PostPosted: Fri 29 Jun - 02:45 (2012)    Post subject: Voilà le meilleur article que je connaisse pour la pêche à la traine des poissons à rostre Reply with quote

fais gaffe daniel que si tu essayes de machouiller les leurres a papa il va te mettre un coup de gaffe!!!!
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PostPosted: Fri 29 Jun - 03:57 (2012)    Post subject: Voilà le meilleur article que je connaisse pour la pêche à la traine des poissons à rostre Reply with quote

jujuchiriqui wrote:
fais gaffe daniel que si tu essayes de machouiller les leurres a papa il va te mettre un coup de gaffe!!!!



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PostPosted: Fri 29 Jun - 08:47 (2012)    Post subject: Voilà le meilleur article que je connaisse pour la pêche à la traine des poissons à rostre Reply with quote

moi j'en avais 2 à une époque, un pêcheur prenait ça retraite, il m'avait filé une caisse de leurres pleine et il y avait donc 2 leurres avec des jupes semblables.
Malheureusement si je me rappelle bien, un wahoo c'est fait la malle et l'autre cassé sur un marlin.
j'ai aussi un leurre, aucune marque dessus, noir/violet, les lanière sont presque pareil mais de forme carré, dur et épais, du costaud.
La tête, 1 miroir de chaque côté, la base à une couronne "dentée" pour faire des bules/projection et toute la tête est tournoyante, très marrant, je suppose qu'il est destiné au thon.
je ne l'ai pas vraiment utilisé

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PostPosted: Fri 29 Jun - 08:57 (2012)    Post subject: Voilà le meilleur article que je connaisse pour la pêche à la traine des poissons à rostre Reply with quote

alors là je m'incline , respect à papa !!!!!!!!!!!!! pas la gaffe !!!!! papa de juju t'es l'meilleur !!
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PostPosted: Fri 29 Jun - 16:18 (2012)    Post subject: Voilà le meilleur article que je connaisse pour la pêche à la traine des poissons à rostre Reply with quote

daniel wrote:
alors là je m'incline , respect à papa !!!!!!!!!!!!! pas la gaffe !!!!! papa de juju t'es l'meilleur !!



daniel c' etait une blague, c' est pas la peine de t excuser, je trouvais l image drole...
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PostPosted: Fri 29 Jun - 16:43 (2012)    Post subject: Voilà le meilleur article que je connaisse pour la pêche à la traine des poissons à rostre Reply with quote

Ce qui est sûr, c'est que c'est pas la peine de mettre une fortune dans ces putain de leurres, qui ne sont finalement que des morceaux de plastique fabriqués en Chine ! Les fabricants se goinfrent encore une fois !!!
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PostPosted: Fri 29 Jun - 16:52 (2012)    Post subject: Voilà le meilleur article que je connaisse pour la pêche à la traine des poissons à rostre Reply with quote

je pense sincerement que la jupe, du moins sa fabrication (epaisseur, consistance), n' a pas beaucoup d' effet sur le poisson.
il me semble que la couleur joue un role tres important, ainsi que le positionnement dans l eau.
au niveau des prix, je suis plus choqué par le prix des hamecons que le prix du leurre en lui meme, car certains hamecons coutent une vrai fortune comme celui de black bart qui coute 24 dollar l unité.
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PostPosted: Fri 29 Jun - 19:00 (2012)    Post subject: Voilà le meilleur article que je connaisse pour la pêche à la traine des poissons à rostre Reply with quote

Une jupe granulée comme les MB crée un foisonnement de la flotte que ne fait pas une jupe lisse !
Et puis j'interdis qu'on critique mes M B ! Compris ?

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Jun - 05:32 (2012)    Post subject: Voilà le meilleur article que je connaisse pour la pêche à la traine des poissons à rostre Reply with quote


Fait gaffe, je suis dans l atelier et j' ai des otages avec moi...Attention ou c' est moi qui vais machouiller!!!! et en plus j ai caché la gaffe
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